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Kill Bill

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ByTor
Oct 11 2003
11:57 am

Random thoughts.

Visually the movie is spectacular.
I liked the anime.
It’s hard to tell whether the story will have any substance until Vol. 2 comes out.
Loved Uma.
Cool soundtrack as expected.
If I cut off someone’s arm does it really spray blood in all directions like that?
In Pulp Fiction, it seemed like there was actually less violence in the movie than the audience thinks there is (much of the violence was implied – left to the audience’s imagination). In Kill Bill, it seems like there is more violence than the audience thinks there is (much of the violence is cartoon-like or shown in black and white or shown as silhouette).
Don’t anyone dare compare the fight scene in this movie to the fight scene in the Matrix Reloaded.

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ByTor
Oct 06 2003
09:13 am

Thoughts? Questions? Concerns?

(Just trying to generate conversation.)

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Jasonvb
Oct 06 2003
10:31 am

I am mostly concerned that I will not be able to buy my tickets before it sells out. So much potential here. So much hype. I am concerned that Kill Bill will not be a good movie. Most of what I’ve heard sounds great, but then you hear snippets of dialogue like,

“You didn’t think it was gonna be that easy, did you?”

“You know, for a second there, yeah, I kinda did.”

Really?

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JabirdV
Oct 06 2003
03:46 pm

Excellent excellent excellent! It is truly Tarrantino fun! If you find a way to see the Asian version release go see that! Alot more violent yet strangely appropriate. Looking forward to April release of Vol.2.

Once we get past opening weekend, we should compare notes!

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JabirdV
Oct 11 2003
03:09 pm

Definitely compare it to Matrix Reloaded (and Revolutions), it was done by the same choreography and wire teams.

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enok
Oct 13 2003
06:23 pm

wow. i loved it!
stylish.

shoes! everyone’s shoes were shown!

the girl came home during the knife fight! i loved it. and then that camera at the top of the kitchen! wow! i said that in the theatre.

i felt like qT used traditional ideas, ie one person defeating 88, so well, and did them so much better than is usually done. we saw all the people moaning and groaning after the fight! you never see that.

as i was watching it (in orange city!?!) i wondered if there was something wrong with me because i loved this movie so much. i know there are going to be people who are just going to hate this movie. the violence is really going to offend them. and i didn’t find it that disturbing, at times it was, but i just accepted it i guess.

i think it’s because i knew that it was going to be two parts, but i really felt the end comming. i could just feel the movie winding down—i’m not sure if that is a good or a bad thing.

oh the detail! from that vasaline jar to the pussy wagon to the shoes! i know i mentioned that already, but i was really intrigued by that right away.

i don’t know how i’d compare it to reloaded. more blood obviously. hmm. it’s interesting that you say it was the same team doing the choreography and wire (i’m not exactly sure what that means). i think i’d have to see both again to say anything about that.

somewhere i think qT is laughing. a lot. this sinister, i’m evil sorta laugh. and i think i’m a part of the joke he’s laughing at.

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dan
Oct 13 2003
07:45 pm

I saw it yesterday and have mixed feelings. As far as substance is concerned, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Tarantino is all style and no substance. All plot and no character. The film is beautifully done. Visually stunning. The story rediculous, but the audience is invited to believe it, and we gladly do. The violence doesn’t mean anything because it doesn’t have anything to do with reality. In this fantasy world blood spurts 100 feet and Uma Thurman can kill 80 people at once because her sword is so awesome.

My main beef with the film is first the stilted dialogue. At some early points in the film it seems like the characters are about to break into a Samuel Jackson “and I will strike down with furious anger…” Kng Jamesian quotation, and then you realize this is actually the way they are talking. But later on they don’t talk like that anymore. Sloppy and inconsistent dialogue, I thought.

Also, the fight scene was waaaaaaay too long. As good as it was technically, I was totally bored with it. Tarantino is good with stories and I wish there had been more story, more dialogue, and less kung-fu fighting.

Also, where was all the cussing? I missed the dirty talk.

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JabirdV
Oct 13 2003
09:37 pm

The blood is comic relief. It is meant to get you on the edge of your seat and then make you burst out laughing.

Did anyone notice how they “bleeped” The Bride’s name out three times in the film?

Did you know that we did nine passes on Reel 6 because no one was satisfied in how Lucy’s sheath sonically hit the snow? Not enough poof in the hit…. Not enough snow bounce…

Like I said, I loved the film. I think I saw it about 15 times that first week and could not get enough of it. It just kept growing on me.

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Jasonvb
Oct 14 2003
06:11 am

Jabird

What’s a ‘pass’?

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Jasonvb
Oct 14 2003
06:17 am

Also, I haven’t seen it yet (sold out opening night), but I did read the whole script, before it was chopped in twain. So I know what heppens in the end!! And I love the corny idea of bleeping [bleep]‘s name for the first part of the movie. We do find out what it is later. I’m going as soon as possible.

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JabirdV
Oct 14 2003
08:31 am

A “pass” is a mix or remix of the audio elements on any particular reel. All the individual sounds you hear in the movie are individual tracks that have to all be mixed down to the 6 track (for the 5.1 theatrical release). It is a very long and tedious process and due to al the individual elements it is not unheard of for a director or producer to ask for remixes of certain sections of the audio of the film until they get it “just right”.