grant
Sep 23 2004
04:12 pm
Thanks for the article. I definitely feel this sort of change happening in the Christian community. The church is finally realizing that they are meant to be the innovators of culture, not just good “relevant” imitators of our culture. I hope Christian musicians are able to expand the realm of “Christian” feelings in the next several years because that’s what I think is so great about music—the ability to express complex emotions without the limitations of speech and the written word. And we know how tied Christians have been in the last several hundred years to the written word.
By the way, two of us in our band lived in Nashville for two years. Lots of good people there.
vanlee
Oct 04 2004
01:47 am
Great article (above) regarding Christians coming out of their ghetto & (essentially) putting their creative light on a hill.
How do we start leaving our most comfortable art ghettos???
Many in general culture do not want to even distinguish between the good & the beautiful and (here I refer to visual art specifically)… the exploitative, the pornographic, and even…the poorly crafted pieces.
(Some of these same persons may greatly admire great Christian art of the past—-the great cultural innovators referred to in the article above. Yet…(at least in visual art) when have we heard (in general culture) any significant reference to quality and beauty as it relates to visual works? (Or, maybe when is the last time it was “politically correct” to publically judge a visual work as “good” “not so good” or even “bad”???)
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vanlee
Oct 04 2004
02:31 am
Maybe (eventually) the Christian community will follow if they see Chr. artists moving, shaking the culture. [b:02b04dcb73](like Mel Gibson did!!! Talk about seismic shock!) [/b:02b04dcb73]Maybe we should just leapfrog out of the ghetto & paint (sing, write, etc.) in the best way we can directly to and in the culture with as much time as we have to spare to do so.
QUESTION BELOW!!![/b:02b04dcb73](PS As I peer into the’Precious Moments’™ version of the Bible (check your Christian bookstore) I have another burning theological question…
[b:02b04dcb73]is it true that Bible characters do NOT resemble ‘Precious Moments’™ statues? [/b:02b04dcb73]I am still awaiting the ‘Precious Moments’ ™ picture of Elijah’s vision of the dead coming back to life…or the 4 ‘Precious Moments’™ Horsemen of the Apocalypse? Or, the ‘cutesy, ’Precious Moments’™ figures at the Last Judgment!!!))
grant
Oct 07 2004
01:14 pm
Yeah, the dagger cast into the belly of paunchy Ehud would make a great precious moment! It was Ehud who was stuck in the gut so deep that the dagger could not be found, right?
dan
Oct 07 2004
01:43 pm
Actually the fat guy was Eglon, king of Moab, and Ehud was the insurgent terrorist, i mean hero.
laurencer
Oct 07 2004
02:35 pm
everything’s political with you, isn’t it? :D
i believe ehud stabbed the large king and fat closed over the wound. which would have made the sword irretrievable. mmmm ….
SamIam
Oct 08 2004
12:49 am
Now that would make and interesting piece. “Precious Movements” of all of those times… it would be a nice challenge to Jeff Koons?s “Banality” work. I can see the potential.
See below for a picture of one of his not explicit porcelain figure.
http://www.listasafn.is/safnid/syningar/syningar_2004/j.koons_michael_jackson_and_bubbles-ed.jpg
danischout
Sep 19 2004
12:14 am
: I’m Danielle. Long-time lurker. First-time poster. (Originally from Sioux Center, so this place feels like home in a sorta-but-not-really way.)[/i:9d284ffb67]
Webb[/b:9d284ffb67], of Caedmon’s Call fame, wrote what I believe to be a brilliant article for grassrootsmusic.com about good art vs. bad art.I live in the Nashville suburbs and work for an entertainment attorney / management company. 98% of our clients are somehow involved in the whole Christian Music world. I have had [i:9d284ffb67]so many[/i:9d284ffb67] discussions with people around here that back up exactly what Derek says.
A group we manage is about to release an EP, and the label is doing a sort of underground mainstream push… essentially because these guys are making good art. There has already been a little backlash from the fankids who think that mainstream radio play equals selling one’s soul to the devil. It’s quite frustrating on our end.
Anyway, I thought that the forward-thinkers here would appreciate the article.